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	<title>Comments on: Four truly stunning bottles of Alsace Riesling and a blind-tasting challenge</title>
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		<title>By: David Strange</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Strange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 11:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with you about the quality of Brand wines, very dominated by the micro-climate of the vineyard. 

Our considered opinion last night was that, even though it was quite fresh, there is not so much point in keeping the Boxler Brand Rieslings for an inordinate period of time. Find a local Riesling lover and pop them with him/her. Jacques likes Riesling, you could find out if he has any strong views on them (and let me know what he says if he does, please).

Indeed, there are few wines with degree of expressive mineral character that Boxler&#039;s Sommerbergs possess. This is a great intellectual thrill, but the wines also provide a lot of visceral pleasure; they are just throbbing with love. Visiting Boxler with equipe Oxford was one of the best things we have done, many thanks for suggesting it Jeremy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with you about the quality of Brand wines, very dominated by the micro-climate of the vineyard. </p>
<p>Our considered opinion last night was that, even though it was quite fresh, there is not so much point in keeping the Boxler Brand Rieslings for an inordinate period of time. Find a local Riesling lover and pop them with him/her. Jacques likes Riesling, you could find out if he has any strong views on them (and let me know what he says if he does, please).</p>
<p>Indeed, there are few wines with degree of expressive mineral character that Boxler&#8217;s Sommerbergs possess. This is a great intellectual thrill, but the wines also provide a lot of visceral pleasure; they are just throbbing with love. Visiting Boxler with equipe Oxford was one of the best things we have done, many thanks for suggesting it Jeremy!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got some of the Brand myself, so at least, I put some of my money where my mouth was... Still, every time I have the Brand wines, I find that the vineyard character comes across much more as climate (hot and sunny) than as pure minerality, as exemplified in the Sommerbergs. With that said, I would be hard pressed to come up with a wine that might be more mineral driven than Boxler&#039;s Sommerbergs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got some of the Brand myself, so at least, I put some of my money where my mouth was&#8230; Still, every time I have the Brand wines, I find that the vineyard character comes across much more as climate (hot and sunny) than as pure minerality, as exemplified in the Sommerbergs. With that said, I would be hard pressed to come up with a wine that might be more mineral driven than Boxler&#8217;s Sommerbergs.</p>
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		<title>By: David Strange</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Strange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two Brand Rieslings may have been exotic and intense, but the harmony (especially in the Boxler) was not lacking. I was a tad distracted by the alcoholic warmth on the Z-H-flavour Brand, but it was neither as sweet nor as blowsy as I feared it might be. These were really good examples of Brand Riesling, but I suppose it would be a bit off for me to insist that everyone would love wines from this vineyard...

As an aside, perhaps the best Gewurztraminer I ever had has come from the Brand Grand Cru, &lt;a href=&quot;http://elitistreview.com/2009/07/30/an-alsace-2007-that-blows-my-socks-off/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here is the note&lt;/a&gt;. That hot, intense character that comes from the Brand can work a treat, if made by a winemaker who can knows how to deal with it and doesn&#039;t harvest grapes that have got too roasted. Again, I am not trying to say that such wines are for everyone, but Peter, Dan and I loved that bottle when I popped it.

Back to Boxler Riesling. I got these wines on the equipe Oxford trip to Alsace, I seem to recall the Boxler wine was one-third the cost of the Z-H&#039;s. Price doesn&#039;t matter, of course, if the wine is good enough. I wanted to get some Sommerberg Riesling from Boxler (his Sommerbergs are clearly the Riesling option of choice), but Jeremy suggested I get some different wines to the partner (who was trying to buy up the entire year&#039;s production of the various Sommerberg Rieslings). I followed his advice and got the Brand Rieslings. I don&#039;t regret that purchase for a moment, so many thanks Jeremy, I liked the wines even if you wouldn&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two Brand Rieslings may have been exotic and intense, but the harmony (especially in the Boxler) was not lacking. I was a tad distracted by the alcoholic warmth on the Z-H-flavour Brand, but it was neither as sweet nor as blowsy as I feared it might be. These were really good examples of Brand Riesling, but I suppose it would be a bit off for me to insist that everyone would love wines from this vineyard&#8230;</p>
<p>As an aside, perhaps the best Gewurztraminer I ever had has come from the Brand Grand Cru, <a href="http://elitistreview.com/2009/07/30/an-alsace-2007-that-blows-my-socks-off/" rel="nofollow"> here is the note</a>. That hot, intense character that comes from the Brand can work a treat, if made by a winemaker who can knows how to deal with it and doesn&#8217;t harvest grapes that have got too roasted. Again, I am not trying to say that such wines are for everyone, but Peter, Dan and I loved that bottle when I popped it.</p>
<p>Back to Boxler Riesling. I got these wines on the equipe Oxford trip to Alsace, I seem to recall the Boxler wine was one-third the cost of the Z-H&#8217;s. Price doesn&#8217;t matter, of course, if the wine is good enough. I wanted to get some Sommerberg Riesling from Boxler (his Sommerbergs are clearly the Riesling option of choice), but Jeremy suggested I get some different wines to the partner (who was trying to buy up the entire year&#8217;s production of the various Sommerberg Rieslings). I followed his advice and got the Brand Rieslings. I don&#8217;t regret that purchase for a moment, so many thanks Jeremy, I liked the wines even if you wouldn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit that I think that Brand is one of my least favorite Grand Crus as too fiery/roasted for my taste. What&#039;s interesting is that Z-H and Boxler have similar pressing regimes, very long and thus very oxidative for the musts. I think that is one of the right things to do if one wishes to avoid premature oxidation. On the other hand, their fermentation regimes are very, very different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that I think that Brand is one of my least favorite Grand Crus as too fiery/roasted for my taste. What&#8217;s interesting is that Z-H and Boxler have similar pressing regimes, very long and thus very oxidative for the musts. I think that is one of the right things to do if one wishes to avoid premature oxidation. On the other hand, their fermentation regimes are very, very different.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 07:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An evening of tremendous wines. A point I thought worth noting was that I did not see much development in the 2001s. They were all very good - the Boxler really stupendous. But I couldn&#039;t see what they had gained from being aged for over eight years. And I&#039;m not sure whether they would gain anything if kept any longer. And as it has been apparent recently that keeping Alsatian Riesling can be risky, I wonder whether it is worth doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An evening of tremendous wines. A point I thought worth noting was that I did not see much development in the 2001s. They were all very good &#8211; the Boxler really stupendous. But I couldn&#8217;t see what they had gained from being aged for over eight years. And I&#8217;m not sure whether they would gain anything if kept any longer. And as it has been apparent recently that keeping Alsatian Riesling can be risky, I wonder whether it is worth doing.</p>
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