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		<title>By: David Strange</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Strange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were only really three whites at the Howard Ripley tasting that did it for me. Roulot&#039;s Bourgogne Blanc was, as ever, quite the stunner; a total bargain for a wine which will provide so much pleasure. The Louis Michel Chablis 1er Vaillons was also a bargain. At that price I found it to be impressively expressive and charming. Alain Chavy&#039;s Puligny 1er Clavoillons had real complexity and a good minerality which tickled my fancy. I thought that for a Puligny 1er of that quality you would be churlish to think the price was anything other than keen. I do feel that these are not really wines for keeping, but enjoying when they are young and expressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were only really three whites at the Howard Ripley tasting that did it for me. Roulot&#8217;s Bourgogne Blanc was, as ever, quite the stunner; a total bargain for a wine which will provide so much pleasure. The Louis Michel Chablis 1er Vaillons was also a bargain. At that price I found it to be impressively expressive and charming. Alain Chavy&#8217;s Puligny 1er Clavoillons had real complexity and a good minerality which tickled my fancy. I thought that for a Puligny 1er of that quality you would be churlish to think the price was anything other than keen. I do feel that these are not really wines for keeping, but enjoying when they are young and expressive.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the HHC tasting on Monday. Again, a number of the wines were cask samples at awkward stages of their development and somewhat difficult to gauge. The 2 Mugneret-Gibourg reds (Vosne village and a Nuits 1er Cru) were very pretty with lovely texture; in white, the Sauzet wines, which in my limited experience have sometimes lacked character, were very charming and the Chablis (Dampt and Christian Moreau) suggested this could be a delicious year there. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the HHC tasting on Monday. Again, a number of the wines were cask samples at awkward stages of their development and somewhat difficult to gauge. The 2 Mugneret-Gibourg reds (Vosne village and a Nuits 1er Cru) were very pretty with lovely texture; in white, the Sauzet wines, which in my limited experience have sometimes lacked character, were very charming and the Chablis (Dampt and Christian Moreau) suggested this could be a delicious year there.</p>
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		<title>By: David Strange</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Strange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sulphur was indeed making the F&amp;P difficult to taste as was the case with some other wines. I wonder how many people can see past that; it would be a real shame if opinions about a producer or vintage were set in stone after tasting wines in this quaquaversal state.

I do worry about the Lambrays wines, far to reminiscent of Kisu&#039;s litter tray after I&#039;ve been locked up in the loony bin for too long. As I mentioned, I think the Lambrays wines are now a bit too expensive, even direct, for us to consider buying a case. However, I have such happy memories of drinking lovely Lambrays I might buy myself an experimental bottle of the 2008 when it makes it into Caveau des Vigneronnes.

Peter, pleased you also liked the Hudelot&#039;s. Great value, eh? Thanks for filling in the l&#039;Arlot gap. I am quite happy to be buying Mugnier&#039;s Marechale every year. Yes, that Roulot Bourgogne Blanc was a super wine at a very pleasing price-point; a baby Meursault and very Roulot in style. I like Roulot a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sulphur was indeed making the F&#038;P difficult to taste as was the case with some other wines. I wonder how many people can see past that; it would be a real shame if opinions about a producer or vintage were set in stone after tasting wines in this quaquaversal state.</p>
<p>I do worry about the Lambrays wines, far to reminiscent of Kisu&#8217;s litter tray after I&#8217;ve been locked up in the loony bin for too long. As I mentioned, I think the Lambrays wines are now a bit too expensive, even direct, for us to consider buying a case. However, I have such happy memories of drinking lovely Lambrays I might buy myself an experimental bottle of the 2008 when it makes it into Caveau des Vigneronnes.</p>
<p>Peter, pleased you also liked the Hudelot&#8217;s. Great value, eh? Thanks for filling in the l&#8217;Arlot gap. I am quite happy to be buying Mugnier&#8217;s Marechale every year. Yes, that Roulot Bourgogne Blanc was a super wine at a very pleasing price-point; a baby Meursault and very Roulot in style. I like Roulot a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was there earlier on David - sorry to have missed you both ! The bottle of Dujac F&amp;P that I tried was really good - showed very good density and class for a village wine - and I am sure it will turn out well as Jeremy says :)

Agree on the Hudelots - they showed well from top to bottom, I even preferred their village Vosne to the M-G (albeit in a lighter, purer, style). The Arlot wines were good but very atypical in colour and density - they were really deep compared not just to what they normally are, but even next to Fourrier ! Sebastian ascribed this to substantial destemming this year, because the young vine stems were affected by rot. The Foret was really very good, though ultimately I preferred Mugnier&#039;s Marechale for its elegance.

I also thought that the Clavelier wines showed well (especially the Brulees) and the Roulot BB has tremendous class for its price.

Finally I can confirm you didn&#039;t miss out - there was no Bachelet on tasting.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there earlier on David &#8211; sorry to have missed you both ! The bottle of Dujac F&#038;P that I tried was really good &#8211; showed very good density and class for a village wine &#8211; and I am sure it will turn out well as Jeremy says <img src='http://elitistreview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Agree on the Hudelots &#8211; they showed well from top to bottom, I even preferred their village Vosne to the M-G (albeit in a lighter, purer, style). The Arlot wines were good but very atypical in colour and density &#8211; they were really deep compared not just to what they normally are, but even next to Fourrier ! Sebastian ascribed this to substantial destemming this year, because the young vine stems were affected by rot. The Foret was really very good, though ultimately I preferred Mugnier&#8217;s Marechale for its elegance.</p>
<p>I also thought that the Clavelier wines showed well (especially the Brulees) and the Roulot BB has tremendous class for its price.</p>
<p>Finally I can confirm you didn&#8217;t miss out &#8211; there was no Bachelet on tasting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cat&#039;s piss is indicative of reduction. Not necessarily permanent, but understandably alarming.

The F&amp;P wine is a final bottling, but very recent and probably high in SO2, like many of the wines no doubt. Makes them seem a little drier and less fruit driven than they will be later in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cat&#8217;s piss is indicative of reduction. Not necessarily permanent, but understandably alarming.</p>
<p>The F&#038;P wine is a final bottling, but very recent and probably high in SO2, like many of the wines no doubt. Makes them seem a little drier and less fruit driven than they will be later in life.</p>
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